this is according to a brand-new nbc news/wall street poll. tied. tonight's debate, needless to say, very crucial. here's an interesting stat that we've learned. the "new york times" say it is only women voted in the upcoming election, president obama would win hands down. if you switched that to only men voting are, mitt romney would win in a landslide. now, obviously, neither of those scenarios can happen but offers interesting insight into how men and women affect the electoral process. so i want to talk about this with author and gender expert judy hoverman. we are so glad you are with us. why is it that men and women view elections so differently? >> well, thanks for having me. i think one of the big differences is the way men and women react in society. men are more transactional, they are more into the facts and figures and women are more relational, they are building relationships and that's what both gender doing with the candidates. >> so how does this gender gap play, i'm wondering, in swing states, particularly ohio and florida? >> well,